H$67 of 100 
j%02
)%The Raider (10)      
H%Uncle Bob (14)       
h&0177
)&Stuff                
H&08/11/88  12:26:39 AM
b$Collin   
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


Chinook Technology is coming out with a HD for the //c, so you better wait for
that one, since it will use newer technology and will have more support than a
discontinued item.
)$Apple II Board       
H$68 of 100 
j%02
)%Lord Franz (223)     
H%ALL                  
h&0104
)&Question.            
H&08/11/88  03:45:11 AM
b$franklin 
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


if you have a zip chip and a transwarp card in your apple, would it be twice as
fast or just the same.?
)$Apple II Board       
H$69 of 100 
j%02
)%Lord Franz (223)     
H%All                  
h&0068
)&?????                
H&08/11/88  12:36:47 PM
b$franklin 
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


Doesn't anyone post messages anymore, or are you all just leechers?
)$Apple II Board       
H$70 of 100 
j%02
)%Jeff Smith (131)     
H%All/Everyone         
h&0160
)&Stuff                
H&08/11/88  01:47:44 PM
b$Barron   
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


  a zip chip and a transwarp card in the same computer?  Wait a minute here.  A
aip chip is made for a //e  and //c while a transwarp card is made for the
//gs
)$Apple II Board       
H$71 of 100 
j%02
)%Parik Rao (4)        
H%Jeff Smith (131)     
h&0223
)&Stuff                
H&08/11/88  08:55:12 PM
b$Parik    
[" h"SysGOD
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


No, the Transwarp is made for the IIe/+, the Transwarp GS is not available yet.

All:

It won't speed up squat, the Transwarp goes up to 3.6 megahertz, the Zip Chip
goes up to 4.  So you will go 4 megahertz, and thats it.

)$Apple II Board       
H$72 of 100 
j%02
)%I.J. (30)            
H%Parik Rao (4)        
h&0120
)&Re: Stuff            
H&08/11/88  09:14:44 PM
b$Ian      
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


But 4 MHz is much better than the old 1 MHz.  But you forget all too easy
about the Rocket Chip which goes up to 5 MHz.
)$Apple II Board       
H$73 of 100 
j%02
)%The High Priest (212)
H%I.J. (30)            
h&0084
)&Rocket Chip          
H&08/12/88  03:57:21 AM
b$Aamir    
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


Yeah, but they're being sued by Zip... probably won't see 'em for a while.

-priest
)$Apple II Board       
H$74 of 100 
j%02
)%The Dealer (226)     
H%All/Everyone         
h&0117
)&Rocket               
H&08/12/88  10:08:22 AM
b$Mark     
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


  Oh yes you will.  Zip may sure Rocket, but there has yet to be a motion to
prevent Rocket from selling the chips.

)$Apple II Board       
H$75 of 100 
j%02
)%The Kamikaze (15)    
H%All                  
h&0321
)&Transwarp            
H&08/12/88  03:08:58 PM
b$Steve    
[" b"Elitist Scum
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


I've never used one, but doesn't the Transwarp have a connector that plugs into
where the CPU should be? I thought it replaced the 6502 chip. If that's so, you
wouldn't be able to have both Transwarp and Zip Chip in the same machine.

           (|V|)
Ka      '___| |___'      ze
     mi {_T_ o _T_} ka
          ' -v- '
)$Apple II Board       
H$76 of 100 
j%02
)%Juan Escargo (29)    
H%The Kamikaze (15)    
h&0349
)&Stuff                
H&08/12/88  05:19:40 PM
b$John     
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


Unless you are the Multitasker. Then you could do it as soon as you finish your
"C" programing class.

I hope the rocket chip makes it out. I am wondering what an "E" looks like at
5mz. I would also be very angry if a company like Zip who has screwed so many
people by advertising and preselling their non existent product held up a
legitamate one.
)$Apple II Board       
H$77 of 100 
j%02
)%Mach Three (28)      
H%All/Everyone         
h&0277
)&Transwarp            
H&08/12/88  06:30:40 PM
b$Ken      
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


Another nice thing about the transwarp is that supposedly, when AE comes out
with a faster chip, you can just plug it into your existing transwarp card (for
the //gs). 

So even if you buy it now (or soon, whenever it's available), it will be easy
to get it upgraaded...

Mach
)$Apple II Board       
H$78 of 100 
j%02
)%Icy E. (222)         
H%All                  
h&0196
)&Stuff                
H&08/12/88  11:30:33 PM
b$Ian      
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


Anyone here hear about the new //gs+ that is suppost to come out in December? 
It is suppost to be about six times faster than the normal //gs!

Ps: Who was that person with my first name!?  Ian.
)$Apple II Board       
H$79 of 100 
j%02
)%Evening Star (221)   
H%I                    
h&0203
)&GS+                  
H&08/13/88  10:22:42 AM
b$Christine
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


What is the source of your information on the GS+, many people say that the new
system is gonna be coming out, but they never really do.  If the IIgs+ is gonna
be 6 times faster, it will be cool though.
)$Apple II Board       
H$80 of 100 
j%02
)%The Raider (10)      
H%all                  
h&0329
)&GS Plus Posts        
H&08/13/88  01:52:29 PM
b$Collin   
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


Yeah, I was thinking that a "What's the GS+?" post was about due any second
now.  Congrats to #222 for keeping up the trend.

About the Zip/Rocket: If you put one into a IIe/c with a PC Transporter, would
your PC software run faster, since the Transporter has software running on the
II system to help interface the two systems?
)$Apple II Board       
H$81 of 100 
j%02
)%Moron From Mars (246)
H%The Trooper (201)    
h&0403
)&Re: FESTERING HATE VI
H&08/13/88  10:08:02 PM
b$David    
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )



I live and work in Centerville, Ohio, and a local club I attend, Apple-Dayton,
composed several articles dealing with computer viruses.  It seems that in the
Dayton area, there was some trouble with computer viruses, and recently the
trouble has ceased to a halt.  I feel that computer viruses, at least in the
Dayton area, are not as big of a scare anymore.  Luckly it never became to big
of a sport.
)$Apple II Board       
H$82 of 100 
j%02
)%Lord Franz (223)     
H%All/Everyone         
h&0177
)&zip and transwarp    
H&08/13/88  10:56:11 PM
b$franklin 
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


If you look in the current issue of A+ mag. They describe the differences
between the zip and the transwarp...It shows how they all have different speeds
for different tasks...
)$Apple II Board       
H$83 of 100 
j%02
)%The High Priest (212)
H%All/Everyone         
h&0339
)&GS+ in December      
H&08/14/88  06:03:22 AM
b$Aamir    
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


..but, if the GS+ was to be out in December, don't you think that the
developers would know by now?  The only proof that they do know are those files
floating around, and I have no idea where they came from.  People knew much
more about the "Apple //x" a few years back months before it came out than they
know about the GS+ now.

-priest
)$Apple II Board       
H$84 of 100 
j%02
)%Jeff Smith (131)     
H%All/Everyone         
h&0146
)&Stuff                
H&08/14/88  03:25:56 PM
b$Barron   
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


  Six times faster eh?  Let's see that's some where around ten to twelve MHZ. 
Pretty fast.  The december part is the part I don't think is true.
)$Apple II Board       
H$85 of 100 
j%02
)%Evening Star (221)   
H%Jeff Smith (131)     
h&0579
)&Apple IIgs+          
H&08/15/88  10:49:30 AM
b$Christine
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


If it truely is x6 faster then the GS, then I bet that Apple is going to charge
and arm and a leg for it too.  The GS runs at 2.8 (2.5 actually), so if the GS+
is running x6 faster, it will be running at 15 MHz which is only .7 slower then
the Mac II which we all know how much that costs.  It would not be good
business for Apple to release a computer which would compete with its own other
system for to low a price.  It is for this reason that I remain skeptical about
that speed of the GS+.  However, I hope that it truely does run 15MHz, cause I
personally hate the Mac II.
)$Apple II Board       
H$86 of 100 
j%02
)%Evening Star (221)   
H%All/Everyone         
h&0155
)&Mac II               
H&08/15/88  10:50:14 AM
b$Christine
[" ^"Priviledged User
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


By the way, that is just my feeling and I don't want to get into a fight over
the Mac II, I am just a single minded Apple II user that is the only reason.
)$Apple II Board       
H$87 of 100 
j%02
)%The Psyco (145)      
H%The High Priest (212)
h&0074
)&Re: GS+ in December  
H&08/15/88  12:17:00 PM
b$Bryan    
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


check in the aug. 'incider' it says something about the iigs+ coming out.
)$Apple II Board       
H$88 of 100 
j%02
)%Jeff Smith (131)     
H%All/Everyone         
h&0203
)&Stuff                
H&08/15/88  12:31:42 PM
b$Barron   
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


  15 MHZ eh?  I don't like the Mac II either because for that price you can buy
yourself a used mainframe or something.  And if it does run that fast it will
probably cost almost the same as the Mac II.
)$Apple II Board       
H$89 of 100
 
j%02
)%Evening Star (221)   
H%Jeff Smith (131)     
h&0205
)&Re: Stuff     
H&b$[" ^"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 )


Yeah, thats what I was saying, the would never be able to handle the Mac and
Apple II line
)$Apple II Board       
H$88 of 100 
j%02
)%Jeff Smith (131)     
H%All/Everyone         
h&0203
)&Stuff                
H&08/15/88  12:31:42 PM
b$Barron   
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Bo
 ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 )


  15 MHZ eh?  I don't like the Mac II either because for that price you can buy
yourself a used mainframe or something.  And if it does run that fast it will
probably cost almost the same as the Mac II.
)$Apple II Board       
H$89 of 100 
j%02
)%Evening Star (221)   
H%Jeff Smith (131)     
h&0205
)&Re: Stuff            
H&08/15/88  11:14:38 PM
b$Christine
[" ^"Priviledged 
]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 )


Yeah, thats what I was saying, the would never be able to handle the Mac and
Apple II line in competitio
)$Apple II Board       
H$88 of 100 
j%02
)%Jeff Smith (131)     
H%All/Everyone         
h&0203
)&Stuff                
H&08/15/88  12:31:42 PM
b$Barron   
[" `"General Access
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


  15 MHZ eh?  I don't like the Mac II either because for that price you can buy
yourself a used mainframe or something.  And if it does run that fast it will
probably cost almost the same as the Mac II.
)$Apple II Board       
H$89 of 100 
j%02
)%Evening Star 
H%h&)&H&b$[" ^"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 )


Yeah, thats what I was saying, the would never be able to handle the Mac and
Apple II line in competition with one another again, it would just take them
right back to the same problems they used to have.
)$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" `"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 )


Some one asked awhile ago about a hard drive for the //c. I read recently in 
Incider that there is only one ans it's mad by Quark. It's retail is 895$ but
I've heard rummors that Chinook Technology is coming out with one, too...
)$Apple II Board       
H$91 of 100 
j%02
)%Angel Heart (17)     
H%The Kamikaze (15)    
h&0240
)&Re: Transwarp        
H&08/16/88  09:47:22 PM
b$Angelica 
[" b"Elitist Scum
]'Apple Rebel Board
 )
 *
 +
 ,
 -
 .
 /
 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 )


The TransWarp card plugs into slot 3 on the //e. So I would think that you
could use both of them at the same time. I don't know why anyone would want to
but I guess it could be done since the Rocket Chip would take the place of the
65c02.
)$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" `"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ))$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" b"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ))$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" `"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ))$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" ^"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ))$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" `"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ))$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" `"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ))$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" ^"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ))$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" ^"]' ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ))$H$j%)%H%h&)&H&b$[" `"]'